Monday, August 01, 2005


Babylonian Talmud » Order Neziqin
» Tractate Bava Qama » Page 48 » side B
אמר רב, במועד ליפול על בני אדם בבורות עסקינן
Rav says:
"What we are dealing with here is [a cow] already well-known for falling on people in cisterns."

For more homicidal bovine action, check out Cows With Guns!


Blogger Rachack said...

I just learned that Gemara yesterday!

8/02/2005 12:12 AM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...

Great! Then we can compare notes... did it also take you an hour to get through one of the Rashis on that ‘amud, like it took me and my hhevrusa?

8/02/2005 12:50 AM  
Blogger Rachack said...

Are you talking about the Rashi where it saw a vegetable in the pit and went for it? I'm flying through the Gemaras in the 5th perek right now because it's all chazara of bikius. I hope to finish reviewing Bava Kama by the end of the summer so I can take the big test in the Yeshiva for lots of money! (Nah, I'm just doing it lishma).

8/03/2005 1:55 AM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

Cows were known to do a lot of strange things in Babylonia.

Thank Gd I live in Wisconsin...wait...

I'm slowly making my way through Baba Kama myself.

8/03/2005 9:58 AM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

Did you get up to the part with "Assia dmagan bemagan, magan shaveh"?

I wrote a song about that.

8/03/2005 9:59 AM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


Yes, that one!
Me and my hhevrusa usually plan on learning for about an hour to an hour and a half each night, but we got so stuck in figuring out that Rashi that when we looked at the clock after finishing it we realized we had been going at it for a full hour passed when we originally had planned on stopping.
It got so bad that my mind was drifting and i drew that picture in the post. In many stages. And it's my hhevrusa who was the one known back in high school for making witty illustrations to go along with strange Talmudic cases!


Well, if you ever come across a cow in Wisconsin who's well-known for falling on people in pits, please take a picture for the rest of us! (Just don't get too close)

Haven't got up to the "assia dmagan bemagan" yet; my hhevrusa and i are still about 15 pages before that. Is your song listen-to-able anywhere?

8/03/2005 11:21 AM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...


If it's your custom not to listen to recorded music during the 3 weeks, it can wait.

Then again, most people would not consider it to be music...

8/03/2005 12:06 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


I try not to listen to to music gratuitously, but that song is brilliant! I think i understand now why you, Dilbert, and others dislike "shiny shoe music" so much. Although it is catchy. And i'm sure most people *would* consider it music, and that might be the problem? :-)

The word "assia" reminds me of how a guy at my Upstate shul would say kaddish with a very idiosyncratic accent. He pronounced ...di ve’atra hadein vedi vekhol atar va’atar... as "...di ve'asya hadein vedi vekhol asa va'asa...". He was dropping his reishes like English "butta" for "butter", except in atra/asra where it became a "y" sound. Really weird. Sounded cool, though.

8/03/2005 2:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the sages who are in this Asia or any place...

8/03/2005 3:58 PM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

People have told me this Shiney-Shoe spoof that I wrote in about 5 minutes and recorded in 90 is one of my better songs.

Maybe there's a message in there somewhere...

8/03/2005 4:08 PM  
Blogger Mar Gavriel said...

Anonymous said...
the sages who are in this Asia or any place...
(=Allen Scott)

No, it's "the sages who are in this Asia or in any myrtle (אסא)"

8/03/2005 4:11 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


Well, i must admit it is a great song. Maybe they like it better because it fits more into what they expect a Jewish music song to be? I did notice that your voice sounded clearer, although maybe that's part of the style?

A.S.(I.A.) & Mar:


8/03/2005 5:20 PM  
Blogger MC Aryeh said...

hilarious! The drawing is a classic in the making....

8/03/2005 8:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow...advertising bots on blogs..
that sucks.

8/03/2005 10:57 PM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

Those bots definatly can't spell.

8/03/2005 11:22 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


Thanks! Your blog is the king of all blogging-with-illustrations, though!


Should i just delete the bot?

8/04/2005 12:03 AM  
Blogger Shifra said...

Of course you should delete the bot.
Great cartoon!

8/04/2005 9:25 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


Thanks, Shifra!

8/04/2005 11:35 PM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

I think you mean...


8/05/2005 11:38 AM  
Blogger Lipman said...

How about a theme song for your blog:
The House of the Falling Cow (music: The Beheimes)

8/07/2005 8:04 AM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


What about DELORTED?

You mean change the title from Hall of the Goblin King to House of the Falling Cow? I'd consider it, if 1) the blog's theme was limited to Talmudic case laws of cows falling off of roofs and/or into cisterns, and 2) i didn't have so many friends who are way more obsessed with cows than i am. I'd like to hear that song, though! ;-) Maybe it can be PT's next hit shinyshoe song!

8/07/2005 8:06 PM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

hey, dat happened once!

8/08/2005 9:59 AM  
Blogger Justine said...

Thanks for the cows with guns link, enjoyed it!

I've got a Polish friend who made up her own word for plasters (as in band-aids). It sounded exactly how we say it in Australia. Coincidence or what?

8/08/2005 8:46 PM  
Blogger Mirty said...

When I was in ninth grade, learning Chumash, my brother was learning Talmud and used to sing,

"Along came a shor and fell in a bor, now you got more trouble than you had before!"

It made me want to learn gemara like the boys did so I could also sing funny songs. :)

The chorus went:
Ba-da-ba-da kum lay,
Ba-da-ba-da kum lay,
Ba-da-ba-da kum lay,

8/10/2005 9:48 AM  
Blogger Mirty said...

By the way, I don't know what it means, so if it's inappropriate, that's not my fault! :D

8/10/2005 9:49 AM  
Blogger PsychoToddler said...

I'm not sure either, Mirty, but it's very Potsie of you.

8/10/2005 12:31 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...


qim leih bideraba mineih is a Talmudic legal principle that means that if you've violated a number of prohibitions that make you liable for different punishments, (in certain cases?) you only get the more severe punishment, and don't get the less severe one.

8/10/2005 12:41 PM  

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