Sunday, January 06, 2008

Glatt Yosher!

K'hal Adath Jeshurun
is removing their hashgahha
from Agriprocessors!



I guess the big question is: Why?

Some rabbis feel that the way Agriprocessors's flipping pens dump the animals out after shehhita is halakhically problematic, in that it may dislodge signs of sickness that would render the animal not kosher. But KAJ doesn't seem to be worried about that, since they say that their removal of hashgocho is not due to kashrus concerns, and "no inference to the contrary regarding the kashrus of the products should be made." Could it be because of fears of Chabadian Mishichism? Or just not wanting to be associated with such a sketchy company that's constantly getting into scandals for how it treats its animals, its workers, and its governmental obligations?

(gray hat tip: an apartmentmate)

7 Comments:

Blogger Gabriel Wasserman said...

Yes!!

In the grand tradition of our predecessors, Rav Hirsch (whose jahrzeit was yesterday) and Rav Breuer.

I had been meaning to raise this issue with Rav Mantel, but apparently that will be unnecessary now.

1/06/2008 10:38 AM  
Blogger tikkunger said...

My vote goes to "just not wanting to be associated with such a sketchy company that's constantly getting into scandals for how it treats its animals, its workers, and its governmental obligations"

1/06/2008 9:19 PM  
Blogger Yehu said...

I'd say KAJ isn't doing it for serious Kashrus violation. When that happens they don;t give you until April 28th. Although I believe RUbashkin has some very serious issues and I don;t eat it, the reason for this removal probably isn't kashrus-oriented.

What Really saddens me is EMpire gone down so much because of them. They're down to 13 shochtim.

Steg, if you see Avi Weiss ask him whether he misses his first job. It's now on its last leg, which would be a real pity. It's one of the early Monsey shuls... Bnai Jeshurun...

1/06/2008 11:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Empire is not down to 13 Shochtim, where did you hear that?

They can barely keep up with demand, just ask anyone in the meat industry.

1/07/2008 1:06 PM  
Anonymous zach said...

I hate such vague, cowardly proclamations - they can only serve to foster rumors. Give us specifics or shut the **** up!

1/07/2008 4:06 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...

zach:

it looked to me more like this proclamation was meant to quash rumors (for instance, that it was a practical kashrut issue).

1/07/2008 4:13 PM  
Anonymous CR said...

"Or just not wanting to be associated with such a sketchy company that's constantly getting into scandals for how it treats its animals, its workers, and its governmental obligations?"

Don't forget that the KAJ was at the forefront regarding the whole trachea-pulling incident. The whole procedure was introduced with the full approval and knowledge of their on-site Rav HaMachshir at the time. Said Rav was dismissed shortly thereafter and replaced with Rav Weissmandl.

KAJ would have to fire themselves if they don't want to be associated with "scandals".

1/08/2008 3:58 PM  

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