Monday, April 17, 2006

Please Tell Me This Is Not Us

Is there actually any Jewish source for the demon/Saytan imagery used in this flash video? Please say no. And if you say yes, where the heck did they get this from? Sources, my friends, I need sources! Mmm... seitan...

http://www.truekabbalah.org/flash/internet.htm


hattip: PMYF/Ághám

8 Comments:

Blogger The back of the hill said...

That is one of the weirder sites I've seen.

A find.

4/17/2006 8:16 PM  
Blogger rabbi neil fleischmann said...

it's funny, i hadn't mentioed it in years, but yesterdsy (before i saw this) i mentioned in a poetry discussion the time that i wrote an image in a poem of a devil and pitchfork and my friend/critic told me that there are so many Jewish sources - why didn't I just find a more appropriate, legitimate Jewish source.

4/18/2006 7:53 AM  
Blogger AMSHINOVER said...

that clip might be me'kasha many in boro park

4/18/2006 4:52 PM  
Blogger Steg (dos iz nit der šteg) said...

amshinover:

i hope you mean that in the matza sense :-P

4/20/2006 10:51 PM  
Blogger Halfnutcase said...

in all my years learning about kaballa from childhood till now, i have never seen anything, ANYTHING that indicated that satan was or even could be depicted as something like this.

that said however, this site might be a little bit more dangerous than anyone would have thought at first, there is a small group of christians that study a perversion of kaballa ment to further their own tummadik aims. this may well either be theirs, or under their infulance, because the whole depiction smacks of christian theology.

4/20/2006 10:57 PM  
Anonymous tnspr569 said...

wait- you like seitan? that just crosses the line...so wrong...

4/23/2006 12:53 PM  
Blogger Amishav said...

Hey,

Thanks for coming over to my blog and posting some comments.

I know this is a bit late, but that devil thing was just utterly strange. Not scary, but lame and annoying- more than anything else. I think that halfnutcase has it right- its got to be some christian thing- probably somehow related to the Jews for Jesus people. Those folks have money in inverse proportion to their brains.

4/24/2006 11:38 PM  
Blogger Brooklyn Habiru said...

I wonder if the Rabbonim in Lakewood saw this video... On a more serious note - Pesachim 112b advises "do not stand before a bull when he ascends from the marsh because the Satan dances between his horns" Obviously this is simply an enjoinder not to needlessly place oneself in harms way. However there is an imagery here involving Satan, horns, dancing [weren’t there little demons dancing down on the bottom of the screen?]. I am not at all suggesting that the X-tian image of Satan as portrayed reflects some Jewish origin, just noting. In all likelihood it seems that the red, horned, pitchfork wielding figure is a mish mosh synthesization of some scarlet colored, horned dragon in the New Testament book called Revelation with the Greek god Pan.

5/01/2006 3:26 PM  

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